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Genealogy of The Clan Gregor - 94 - descendants of Peter in Buchanan

return to 93 - Descendants of Gregor son of Coll

Raibart Ruadh / Rob Roy
b.~1671 died 1734
m. Mary MacGregor of Comer on 1/1/1693
Inversnaid / Balquhidder
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Balquhidder
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Coll [7]
b.~1694 died 1735
m. Dec 1721, Margaret MacGregor, Coileitir, Glen Falloch
25 - Ancestry of Margaret
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Balquhidder
Gregor [1]
b.~1722
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Donald
b.1/11/1742 (at Coileitir, Glen Falloch?) [10]
m 15Apr1764 Balqdr Ann daur to John McGregor in Ballintuim in Rannoch who came to Strathfillan.
After his marriage Donald returned to Balquhidder.
Alias Drummond used for first two births, then McGrigor after 1774
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Hugh [11]
b.19/4/1778
d.31/1/1863 [3]
m.3/3/1804 Elizabeth McLaren
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Balquhidder
Peter [14]
b.21/9/1807
d.16/10/1900 [2]
m. Margaret Clark 28/11/1835 Aberfoyle [6]
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Stronchlachar, Loch Katrine

John
b.1838 [24]
d.26/6/1866
m. Margaret Cameron or MacPherson 1857/58 [23]
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Buchanan

John
b.30/11/1859 [27]
d.26/4/1927
m. 13/3/1884 Grace Alison Johnston, (b.1856,) [16]
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[15]
John & Albert in Winchester ---------------- Eliza & Isabella b. Crieff ------Peter & Grace in Lenzie (Cadder W)

John William George
b.1884 [5]
d.1964
m. Martha Jane McMullan 24/6/1924 [25]
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Kirkintilloch

Kevin
d.sp
John Daniel [12]
b.1928
d. 13/1/1983
m. Agnes Drummond 1953
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Lenzie

Iain Paul Richard [26]
m.Lorna Pollock
1984
Martin Murray
Joseph
Winifred
m.John Westwood
Marie
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Anne
Adrienne
Frances

Albert Joseph
b.1887 [4]
d.1938 [13]
Eliza Catherine
b.20/5/1889
d.16/7/1970 [18]
m.1921 Robt Auchterlonie [21]
Isabella Allison
b.22/7/1891
d. ?
m. 1915 James Proudfoot [22]
Peter [29]
b.8/11/1895
d.1/7/1954
m. Catherine Geary 18/4/1927 [20]
Grace Johnstone
b.13/8/1897
d.1970 ? [19]
m. 1928 Andrew Shannon [17]
Hugh b.1860
Elizabeth b.1860
Thomas b.1863 Janet b.1865

[1] GD50/184/84/5 paper has the following: Gregor a descendant of Coll the son of Rob Roy who lived about the braes of Balquhidder had a son Donald.

[2] statutory deaths: MCGREGOR, PETER; 93; 1900; 474/ 6; Buchanan
His death certificate states:
Parish of Buchanan in the County of Stirling: Peter McGregor (Retired Boatman), Widower of Margaret Clark; Died on 16 October 1900, aged 93 years
Parents Hugh McGregor, Ground Officer (deceased) and Elizabeth McGregor, m.s. McLaren (deceased)
Natural causes due to old age Informant Alex McNiven, Grandson, Newton Mearns

Census 1891: MCGREGOR, PETER; 1891; M; 83; 474/ 2/ 4 Buchanan Stirling

[3] Statutory Death - MCGREGOR, HUGH; age: 84; Mother's MS: MCGREGOR; 1863; 331/ 1 Balquhidder
According to Linda Nisbet - Hugh MacGregor was ground officer (or bailiff) on the Edinchip property, to Sir John MacGregor Murray of Lanrick, and to three succeeding generations. Hugh died on 31st January 1863.

[4] Statutory birth GRO: MCGREGOR, ALBERT JOSEPH; Mother MS: JOHNSTONE; GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in WINCHESTER Volume 02C Page 107

[5] Statutory birth GRO: MCGREGOR, JOHN WILLIAM; Mother MS: JOHNSTON; GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in WINCHESTER Volume 02C Page 111
statutory deaths: MCGREGOR, JOHN WILLIAM G; 80; 1964; 645/3 777 Glasgow (North)

[6] OPR marriage: MCGREGOR, PETER; MARGARET CLARKE/FR542 (FR542); 28/11/1835; 474/30 75 Buchanan
Census 1861 – Margaret was living with her in-laws in Balquidder.
Parish of Balquhidder: Address: ? Achtoo
Hugh McGregor, Head, Widower, age 82, crofter, born Perthshire
Duncan McGregor, Son, Married, age 46, labourer, born Perthshire
Donald McGregor, Son, ?age, 55, Farmer, born Perthshire
Marg. McGregor, Daughter in Law, Married, age 35, housekeeper, born Perthshire
Hugh McGregor, Grandson, age 1, born Perthshire
Elisabeth McGregor, Granddaughter, age 3 months, born Perthshire
Isabella, McGovan, servant, unmarried, age ?14, born Perthshire, Kenmore

Census 1871: Balquhidder 331/2/2
Mary (Marg?) 45
Hugh 11
Elizabeth 10
Mary 8
Thomas 7
Janet 4
Duncan 56

Census 1881: Balquhidder 321/2/4:
Mary 55 (should be Margaret = Marg?)
Hugh 21
Elisabeth 20
Thomas 17
Duncan 56 (should be 66?)

Here are the possible statutory births of the children of John & Margaret:
MACGREGOR, JOHN; M; 1859; 474/ 2 Buchanan
MCGREGOR, HUGH; M; 1860; 355/A 25; Fortingall
MCGREGOR, ELIZABETH; F; 1860; 331/ 14; Balquhidder
MCGREGOR, THOMAS; M; 1863; 331/ 9 Balquhidder
MCGREGOR, JANET; F; 1865; 331/ 16 Balquhidder

[7] Coll died before 18 December 1735 when his Testament was confirmed. His executors were Margaret Campbell, his widow, and Robert Murray of Glencarnock, as principal parties and on behalf of Coll's creditors Alexander Stewart, writer in Stirling, and James Alexander, saddler there. There is a second confirmation in November 1736 and all four are referred to in their capacity as executors qua creditors. Neither document refers to a relationship between Margaret and Robert of Glencarock, nor between Robert and Coll, and, instead, he is simply acting in the capacity of a creditor. However, I think this may be circumstantial evidence that Robert was actually Coll's brother in law and taking on the role of executor assisting his sister Margaret. Coll Campbell in Kirktown of Balquhidder: Dunblane Consistory Court TD 18/11/1735 CC6/5/24 and EIK 5/11/1735 CC/5/24

[10] All of the descendants of Donald taken from the Ward Tree
I can't find an OPR record of the birth of Gregor, so have assumed a firstborn, 1722 after 1721 marriage, so that he could have Donald in 1740-46 and marry in 1764
That makes the ages correct, but it is suspicious. There were gaps in the OPR around these times.There is a baptism of Unknown to Coll in 1735, but if that was Gregor, it is far too late for the birth of son Donald in the period 1740-46 as recorded by John Ward Donald.
The only recorded possibility, which I have taken, is a baptism in Killin parish: Donald baptised by Grigor McGrigor and Kat. McIver 1/11/1742 361/10/164 Killin
Killin parish includes Coiletir in Glen Falloch where there had been MacGregor settlement, of the Glengyle line, for many years. Margaret, the wife of Coll was of the Coileitir family so it is possible that her son Gregor's wife had her child there.

[11] MCGREGOR, HUGH; parents: DONALD MCGREGOR/ANNA McGREGOR; Male; 19/4/1778; 331/10 242; Balquhidder

[12] statutory birth: MCGREGOR, JOHN DANIEL ALO; M; 1928; 602/2 8 400 Skelmorlie
statutory marriage: MCGREGOR, JOHN DANIEL A; DRUMMOND, AGNES J; 1953; 475/15 Campsie
statutory death: MCGREGOR, JOHN DANIEL ALO; 54; Mother's MS: MCMULLAN; 1983; 590/14 Rutherglen
Peacefully, at this home, 14 Viewpark Drive, Burnside, Rutherglen on 13 January 1983, JOHN D A MCGREGOR, beloved husband of Agnes Josephine Drummond, and dear father to Iain, Murray, Paul and Martin. Fortified by rites of Holy Church. R.I.P. Remains to St Columbkille’s R. C. Church, Rutherglen, tomorrow (Sunday), receiving Mass at 7.45pm. requiem Mass on Monday, 17th inst,. At 10 a.m., funeral thereafter to Rutherglen Cemetery.

[13] statutory deaths: MCGREGOR, ALBERT JOSEPH; age 50; 1938; 644/9 16 Kelvingrove
Death 1 January 1938, Albert Joseph McGregor, grain merchant’s clerk, single.
Died at 4 Park Gate, Glasgow. Usual residence “Lillieslea”, Beech Lane, Lenzie. Age 50 years.
Father: John McGregor, Hardware warehouseman (deceased), Grace McGregor ms Johnstone (deceased).
Informant, Sister, “Lillieslea”, Beech Road, Lenzie

[14] Linda Nisbet's ancestor, Peter, was the second child and was baptised on 21 September 1807. He was the boatman on Loch Katrine mentioned in John Ward’s notes. There is an article and photograph of him in the Glasgow Herald. 'Peter McGregor and John McDonald, boatmen on Loch Katrine, Trossachs, for 52 years. They rowed Her Majesty, the late Queen Victoria from the ‘Rob Roy’ steamer to the Royal Cottage to turn the water on to Glasgow in the year 1859.'"

[15] Census 1911: 626/A1 5/ 23; Cadder (Western); Lanark
MCGREGOR, ISABELLA; F; 19;
MCGREGOR, PETER; M; 15;
MCGREGOR, ALBERT J; M; 24;
MCGREGOR, JOHN; M; 51;
MCGREGOR, GRACE J; F; 13
MCGREGOR, GRACE; F; 54

[16] statutory births: JOHNSTON, GRACE ALISON; F; 1856; 646/1 215; Govan

[17] statutory marriages: SHANNON, ANDREW ALLAN; MCGREGOR, GRACE JOHNSTON; mar: 1928; 498/ 35 Kirkintilloch

[18] statutory deaths: MCGREGOR, ELIZA CATHERINE; 81; 1970; 602/ 127 Largs (Ayr)

[19] statutory deaths: SHANNON, GRACE; 74; 1969 578/ 509 Ayr

[20] statutory marriages: MCGREGOR, PETER; GEARY, CATHERINE; 1927; 644/15 93 Hutchesontown

[21] statutory marriages: MCGREGOR, ELIZA C; AUCHTERLONIE, ROBERT; 1921; 498/ 57 Kirkintilloch

[22] statutory marriages: MCGREGOR, ISABELLA A; PROUDFOOT, JAMES; 1915; 644/14 193 Maryhill

[23] statutory marriages: MCGREGOR, JOHN; CAMERON, MARGARET; 1858; 334/ 5 Blair Atholl
OR statutory marriages: MCGREGOR, JOHN; MCPHERSON, MARGARET; 1857; 104/ 2 Laggan
Census 1861: MCGREGOR, JOHN; 1861; M; 23; 474/ 5/ 6 Buchanan, Stirling

[24] There is difficulty with this generation.
Peter McGregor married Margaret Clarke in Buchanan 28/11/1835. It was recorded on the same date as Margaret Clark in Aberfoyle.
There is one apparent OPR baptism to this family between 1835 and 1854, but it was on the island of Islay
MCGREGOR, ARCHIBALD; PETER MCGREGOR/MARGARET CLARKE FR118 (FR118); M; 20/09/1840; 540/10 221 Kilchoman

The birth of Hugh in Arngask Fife does not appear to relate to this family OPR baptism: MCGREGOR, HUGH; PETER MCGREGOR/; M; 03/06/1849; 404/50 17; Arngask (Fife)

However, there is this marriage of Peter McGregor and Margaret Douglass in Crieff and they had a son John also in 1838. Almost certainly wrong!
OPR marriage: MCGREGOR, PETER; MARGARET DOUGLASS/; 20/05/1838; 342/20 125; Crieff
Recorded children of this marriage are:
OPR baptism: MCGREGOR, JOHN; parents: PETER MCGREGOR/MARGARET DOUGLASS; M; 23/07/1838; 342/ 20 62 Crieff
OPR baptism: MCGREGOR, MARGARET; PETER MCGREGOR/MARGARET DOUGLAS; F; 17/01/1841; 342/20 71 Crieff
OPR baptism: MCGREGOR, ALEXANDER; PETER MCGREGOR/MARGARET DOUGLAS; M; 24/08/1844; 342/20 79 Crieff
OPR baptism: MCGREGOR, JESSIE; PETER MCGREGOR/MARGARET DOUGLAS; F; 12/07/1848; 342/20 89 Crieff
OPR baptism: MCGREGOR, CHRISTIAN; PETER MCGREGOR/MARGARET DOUGLAS; F; 28/10/1851; 342/20 98 Crieff
The 1851 census for Crieff has at 342/5/44: Peter 46, Margret 43; John 12; Margaret 10; Alexander 7; Janet 3; and Christian 0;

[25] statutory marriages: MCGREGOR, JOHN WILLIAM GE; MCMULLAN, MARTHA JANE; 1924; 498/ 38 Kirkintilloch
From the information on their marriage certificate, it shows that John (William George) McGregor, bachelor, plumber, married Martha Jane McMullan, children’s nurse, on 24 June 1924. John’s usual residence was 10 Regent Square, Lenzie. His parents were John McGregor, warehouseman and Grace McGregor, m.s. Johnston (deceased).

[26] statutory births: MCGREGOR, PAUL RICHARD; M; 1959; 648/ 460 Lanark
statutory marriages: MCGREGOR, PAUL RICHARD; POLLOCK, LORNA LUCY; 1984; 473/ 120 Stirling

[27] It appears to me that the generation of John 1838-1866 discussed in note 24 could be confusing
The censuses for Buchanan, which included Stronchlachar on Loch Katrine (visited by Victoria in 1859) has:
Census 1871: 474/3/16 Peter (62) and John (11) - so born 1859/1860
Census 1861: 474/3/2 Peter (52) and John 2 - so born 1859
Is John the son of Peter or his grandson? If John 1838-1866 is correct then he could be Peter's grandson

[28] Linda Nisbet says: "Although I haven’t found Peter in the 1861 census, he may have been living in Stronachlachar, Loch Katrine. The 1861 census shows his son John, at age 23, was a servant/omnibus driver for Robert Blair, Trossachs Hotel, Inversnaid. John drowned in Loch Katrine, Stronachlachar, at the age of 28 on 18 July 1866. (I have a copy of details of the drowning from the Glasgow Herald, dated 21 July 1866). At that time John’s family were living in Stronachlachar. As Stronachlachar (towards the western end of the loch) was one of the two main access points for Loch Katrine (Trossachs Pier at the loch's eastern end being the other) it is possible that Peter was living there? Maybe they did not reach Stronachlachar to do the census or Peter was out in his boat?"
PJL: - Peter, aged 52, does appear in the 1861 census for Buchanan at 474/3/2 with son/grandson John aged 2. If born 1807 he would be 54, but many census ages can be incorrect

[29] Peter, born 1895, awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal (DMC) in WW1.
"His Majesty the KING has been graciously pleased to approve of the award of the Distinguished Conduct Medal to the undermentioned! Warrant Officers, Non-commissioned Officers,, and Men for gallantry and distinguished service in the field : —
“303335 Pte. P. MacGregor, l/8th Bn., Arg-, and Suth'd Highrs. (T.F.) (Lenzie). For conspicuous gallantry and coolness with a trench reconnoitring patrol, which was suddenly heavily bombed from behind a block, the officer being wounded. This man led a rush on the block under a shower of bombs and the enemy bolted. Later, when the enemy counter-attacked in force, and the patrol had to withdraw, he kept the enemy at bay by bombing until his men had got away, and then fell back himself. It was due to his courage and determination that the patrol was extricated from a difficult situation without loss”.

[30] Linda says, "The 1861 census shows his son John, at age 23, was a servant/omnibus driver for Robert Blair, Trossachs Hotel, Inversnaid. John drowned in Loch Katrine, Stronachlachar, at the age of 28 on 18 July 1866. (I have a copy of details of the drowning from the Glasgow Herald, dated 21 July 1866). At that time John’s family were living in Stronachlachar. As Stronachlachar (towards the western end of the loch) was one of the two main access points for Loch Katrine (Trossachs Pier at the loch's eastern end being the other) it is possible that Peter was living there? Maybe they did not reach Stronachlachar to do the census or Peter was out in his boat? "
Census 1861: MCGREGOR, JOHN; 1861; M; 23; 474/ 5/ 6 Buchanan Stirling
Other family members not present, See Note 6: wife Margaret, Hugh & Elizabeth with John's parents in Balquhidder.
See Note 27: son John with grandfather Peter at Stronchlachar, Buchanan