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Genealogy of The Clan Gregor - 12 - Descendants of Gregor McAnecham

Back to 2 - The immediate descendants of Gregor, the founder of the Clan
Griogair / Gregor
(~1280 to ~1350)
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Iain Cam / The 'One Eyed' John MacGregor of Glenurquhay [1]
(~1325, died 1390)
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Griogair / Gregor McAnecham in Glenurquhay [2]
~1361, died 1415
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Iain / John
~1396
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Griogair
~1440

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Alasdair [17]
Donnchadh [3]
~1450 d.1518
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Iain dubh [8]
~1490 d.1562
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Brackley
Niall [5]
~1491 d.1524

Griogair [15]
~1492

Maol coluim / Malcolm
~1395
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Mamlorn

Gregor
~1440 possible 1488 list

Dougal
~1445 possible 1488 list

Padraig / Patrick Malcolmson [4] [9]
~1430 d.9/7/1518
Auchinchallane
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Gregor [6] [22]
~1460 d.6/3/1547
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Donnchadh ladasach [7] [21]
~1485 exec.16/6/1552
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Corriecharmaig

Griogair [10]
~1520 exec.16/6/1552
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Donnchadh abrach [14]
~1545 d.1604 at Bentoig
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Descendants of Duncan Abrach
Alasdair sgorach [20]
~1547

Padraig athallach [12] [13]
~1546 exec.1604 [16]
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Descendants of Padraig atthallach
Domhnal ruadh
~1551
alive 1626
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Descendants of Domhnal ruadh
Dubhgall
~1552
d.1604
Donnchadh
~1521 exec.16/6/1552
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Donnchadh oig
~1545
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Iain [19]
~1575

Padraig dubh [11]
~1522 d.1574
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Padraig
~1545
Morinch
Iain [18]
~1550

 

[1] Obit: 1390. April 19. Death of John MacGregor of Glenurquhay.

[2] Obit: 1415. Death of Gregor McAnecham in Glenurquhay

[3] Obit: 1518. July 19. Death of Duncan MacGregor Captain of the Castle of Glenurquhay; he was buried at Dysart.

[4] Obit: 1518. July 9. Death of Patrick MacGregor at Auchinchallane; he was buried in Dysart.

[5] Obit: 1524 Nov. 9. Death of Neill son of Duncan MacGregor in Glenurquhay, at the Castle of Glenurquhay

[6] Obit: 1547. March 6. Death of Gregor Patrickson MacGregor in Glenurquhay at Aychinchechallan, and buried in Dysart.

[7] Obit: 1552 June 26. Murder and decapitation of Duncan MacGregor and his sons Gregor and Malcolm Roy by Colin Campbell of Glenurquhay and Duncan Roy Campbell of Glenlyon and Alexander Menzies of Rannoch
Duncan ladasach could possibly have been a son of Padraig in Mamlorn. Auchinchallane is at the head of Glenlyon, on the northern edge of Mamlorn so this is consistent.

[8] Obit: 1562 Feb. 2. Death of John Dow McCondoquhy VcGregor at the Castle of Glenurquhay
“27 July 1528. Indenture of manrent and protection between Duncan Campbell of Glenvrquhay as chief, and Jhone MakCwill [MacDougall] of Kagarra as vassal; the said Jhone being bound to keep the premises under a penalty of one hundred merks Scots: Colling Campbelle brother to the said Duncan, Allester M'Aine V'llene [Alister son of John son of Allen Stewert of Gerglinglaiss, Duncan M'Allane VAllan [Duncan son of Allan son of Allan], Duncan M'Condoquhy Wye Ewyne, Jhone M'Condoquhy Roy [John son of Red Duncan] and Patrik M'Keller witnesses. Signed at the Castle of Glenwrquhay, 27 July 1528.” (Black Book Taymouth, 1854)

[9] Patrick malcolmson was the forester of Mamlon and is paid in the Exchequer rolls in 1462 and 1463
The Exchequer Rolls of Scotland, Vol VII, 1460-1469, pub. 1884. Page 112. “Et Eidem, per solucionem factam Patricio Malcomesone, forestario de Mamlorne”
Padraig who died in 1518 must have been the son of Malcolm. In this case, either Malcolm was born later than 1375 or Patrick was a late child of Malcolm
In the Dewar MS (p.336 of MSS 7) is the following verse:
"That was Peter and Malcolm / Two outstanding men of the district / Those two were outstanding, / And that son of Gregor from Roro, / Who was in Glen Lyon by blood-right / O good son of Gregor, son of Peter / May the warriors win you victory
This appears to indicate that Gregor was the son of Patrick who was the son of Malcolm - with no extra Patrick..

[10] 1573. August 24. . . . Be it kend till all men and sundrie to quhom it efferis we Archibald Erle of Argyle Lord Campbell and Lorne justice and chancellor of Scotland &a. &a. to haif resavit our louittis (lovites) Duncan Abbroche McGregour, Patrik McGregour, Allaster Skorinche ( ) McGregour, Molcollum McGregour, Patrik Awilochi (Aulach) McGregour and Dougal McGregour the saidis Duncanis bredrene, thair airis and offspring in our maintenance. ........... The names of thair airis and offspring conteinit in this band and off thameselffis that is presentlie in lyff, Duncan Abbrach McGregour, Robert McGregour his sone, Duncan and . . . . also his sonis; Allaster Skerrich Mcgregour, Dugall and . . . . . his sones, Patrick Aulich McGregour, Duncan . . . . also his sones Johne McGregour in Morinche, sone to Patrik Dow and Patrik McGregour brother to the said Johne.” - Luss Collection.

[11] 1573. August 24. .See note 10 above for .... Patrik McGregour, . . . also his sones Johne McGregour in Morinche, sone to Patrik Dow and Patrik McGregour brother to the said Johne.; - Luss Collection.

[12] Gregor, eldest son of Duncan Ladosach, left two sons : 1. Duncan, who succeeded him, and who, after his fathers death, was sent to Lochaber, whence he was called Duncan Lochaber or Abarach. 2. Patrick, brought up in Athole, and thence known as Parig Adholach or Aulich, “of whom the Drummonds, alias MacGregors, of the Bows, and many other tribes.” Patrick Adholadh was executed in Edinburgh with Glenstray, February 1604. He left five sons, frequently mentioned in the Register of Privy Council, i.e :- Duncan, who took name of Livingstoun, - his son Donald died at the skirmish of Leny. Allester, who took name of Livingstoun. Patrick beg, who took name of Livingstoun and was slain in skirmish at Leny, 1626. Donald, who took name of Balfour . John, who took name of Balfour. Also “Callum Baine” another son - was slain in skirmish at Leny, 1626

[13] "Patrick aldoch MacGregouris for thameselfs and all discendit and to discend of umquhile Duncan Latois, (Ladosach) thair predecessour.", - No 23 in 1601;

[14] "Duncan abroch MacGregouris for thameselfs and all discendit and to discend of umquhile Duncan Latois, (Ladosach) thair predecessour. ", - No 22 in 1601; No 14 in 1602;

[15] "Gregor MacAne in Brakley in Glenuraquhay ", - No 9 in 1592;

[16] 1604. January 20 Five persons executed - 2. Patrick Aldoch MacGregour of Corriechrambie, younger brother of Duncan Abroch and grandson of Duncan Laddosach.

[17] 1604. January 20 Five persons executed - 5. Allaster MacGregor MKean (McAne), younger'son of Gregor MacGregor of Brackly. He was second cousin of Patrick Aoladh.

[18] #76-1613b Johne McFatrik Dow at Glenfrune
GD112/39/32/11
News that Robert Abroche McGregour, Patrick Abroche McGregour and John McPatrick Dwy McGregour, three of the most notorious limmers of the clan, held presently in the island of Muck, are to be brought for trial in Edinburgh; possibility of their rescue; Council directs Glenorchy to provide six or seven score men under a captain, to prevent such an attempt by Allan McEan Dwy of Lochquaber, and to assist in the safe convoy of the prisoners as far as burgh of Perth, where they may be out of danger.

[19] #77-1613b Johne McConechy (or McDoneichy) Oig (McGregour)

[20] Allaster scorach (1547) #17 1602 Arthilie, Ardishie Wester (1599)

[21] Highland Papers Vol IV, Campbell of Strachur writs, page 32
12 Oct 1551 - Notarial Instrument by Duncam Makgregor Mcphatrick, Grigor Duncanson McGregor and Johne Duncanson McGregor, sons to the said Duncan relating to the lands of Vestir Ardquhille Voir extending to a five pound land in the barony of Glenfalloch

[22] In the latest edition (No 16, March 2026) of Notes & Queries, published by the Society for Highlands and Islands Historical Research (SHIHR) I found a translation by Dr Ronnie Black of some lines from an unknown poet found on page 336 of Dewar MSS 7 in the Argyll Estate Archives, Inveraray.

That was Peter and Malcolm / Two outstanding men of the district / Those two were outstanding / And that son of Gregor from Roro / Who was in Glen Lyon by blood-right / O good son of Gregor, son of Peter / May the warriors win you victory.

It struck me that “the good son of Gregor, son of Peter” was Donnchadh Lŕdasach , a particular thorn in the flesh of Cailean Liath, laird of Glenorchy . I disagree with Martin MacGregor’s view that Donnchadh’s father was “the Pŕdraig MacGregor who was apparently tenant of Mamlorn in 1541”. I consider that Pŕdraig was the grandfather of Donnchadh. My genealogy is here - https://glendiscovery.com/gregor-genealogy-12.html

Donnchadh eventually fell into the hands of Cailean Liath and was beheaded by him, along with his son Griogar on 15th June 1552. Donnchadh held lands at Corriecharmaig in Glen Lochay, but also held Ardchoille in Glen Dochart.

Donnchadh is the probable ancestor of the present-day chiefs of Clan Gregor and “Ardchoille” has replaced “Bad Giuthas” as the slogan of Clan Gregor. (Lŕdasach’s descendant, John Murray, having become wealthy, was elected chief of Clan Gregor in 1787 and ennobled by George III as the first Baronet of Lanrick in 1795.)

In Ronnie’s analysis “Peter and Malcolm were identified by Alasdair Duncan as the sons of Patrick Athallach, who were killed in a fight at the Castle of Leny near Callander in 1626.” However Patrick Athallach was the son of Griogar, executed in 1552, and thus the grandson of Donnchadh Lŕdasach. So he is therefore later than the original date of these verses which I believe pre-date 1552. Patrick Athallach himself, (so named because he was raised in Atholl) was executed in January 1604 among the reprisals following the battle of Glen Fruin in 1603.

The dates and locations cited in this discussion all come from the chronicle of James Macgregor, Dean of Lismore.

So why do I believe that Donnchadh Lŕdasach is being referred to in these verses? A notarial instrument of 1551 mentions Duncan Makgregor Mcphatrick in Wester Ardchoille. (see note 4). That record implies that his father was Gregor and grandfather Pŕdraig. The father of Donnchadh Lŕdasach, was probably Gregor Patrickson in Aychincschecall “Gregor M'Phatryk V'Gregor” recorded in the Dean’s Chronicle as having died on 6th March 1547.

Gregor Patrickson’s father was Patrick Macgregor, at Auchinchallane, whose obit was dated July 9 1518. Patrick Malcolmson, the forester of Mamlorn is mentioned in the Exchequer rolls in 1462 and 1463 . From his patronymic, that Patrick’s father was Malcolm, possibly the son of Gregor McAnecham in Glenurquhay (Obit: 1415.) Aychincschecall, Auchinshichallan and Auchinchallane are variants of the same placename - Auch in Strath Fillan – identified as Auch-innis-Challain on the 6th inch map of 1870 - on the western edge of Mamlorn which is the high ground at the head of Glen Lyon and Glen Lochay.

So, reversing the above genealogical sequence we have Malcolm, then Patrick (Peter), then Gregor, the father of Donnchadh Lŕdasach. When I reconstructed the genealogy of this line, there are no obits in the Dean’s chronicle for Malcolm, the son of Gregor McAnecham (obit 1415). Patrick Malcolmson (the forester in Mamlorn in 1462) died in 1518 - “Death of Patrick Macgregor, at Auchinchallane”. Gregor (obit 1547) was the son of Patrick (obit 1518), the son of Malcolm (b~1400) which fits Dewar’s verses.

The middle two lines probably refer to another Gregor which explains the mention of Roro https://glendiscovery.com/gregor-genealogy-37.html Griogar, the fifth of Roro in Glen Lyon had at least four sons, one of whom must have been the individual mentioned. Presumably Roro men supported Donnchadh Lŕdasach in his rebellion against the Campbells in the 1540s.






John MakGregoure of Glenstra,
John Ewinsoun
Donald Ewinsoun,
Gilchrist Ewinsoun
Glenstrae

Gregor Duncanesoun in Glenlyoune
Malcolm Duncansoun
Duncansons in Glenlyon

Duncan Charlissoun
Donald Charlissoun
Charlissons

John Nelesoun
Ewin Nelesoun
Gregor Nelesoun
Neillsons in Roro

Alexander Duncanebegissone
Gregor Duncanbegisson
Duncanbegsons in Roro

Gregor Patrikassoun
Alexander Patrikyssoun
Patrikassons in Glenlednock

John Donaldsoun - not sure!
Gillespie MakAlexander - not sure!

Gregor MakAnemoll
Fortingall

Malcolm Beg MakRobert
Malcolm Mor MakRobert
Dougal Ker
MacRobs & Dougal Ker

Finlay MakPatrik
Dougal MacPatrik
possibly in Mamlorn? - not sure

Duncan Revaich,
William Jhone the Lubissone,


 
Patrick succeeded (his Father, Duncan Aberach, who was killed at Bentoig April 1604). He was co-temporary with Malcolm

Amelia:
Brackley appears in the list of chief families of the Clan Gregor, sent to Sir John Murray of Tullibardine the end of the 16th century, where the first name under the "House and Gang of Gregour McAne” is that of" Gregour McAne in Brackley in Glenurquhy." He was Captain of the Castle of Glenurchay under Sir Colin Campbell, 1570. The next mention is 1629, July 26th, when "Johne Grahame alias McGregour of Brackly complained against Christian Comrie, Relict of …. McGregour in Glenogill, her son Patrick McGregour having slain Johne McGregour Dow McGregour son to Johne in Dullatur, Sister Sone to the Complainer." In 1635 Sept. 4th," Patrick Graham sumtyme McGregour, eldest son and nearest heir of umqle James Graham sumtyme of Bracklie" has a precept of "Clare Constat" of the two merk land of the same. This Patrick figures in several little borrowing transactions or "obligations." In 1674 Patrick McGregor of Brackly gives [page 305] an obligation and his name appears in a list of families summoned to Inver¬lochy to give a Bond to the Commissioners of Council 1679, while in Sept. of that year “McGregor of Brackland" is named in a Commission of Fire and Sword given to Campbell of Laweris against the Clan.
In 1682, Patrick McGregor of Bracklie gave a disposition of the lands to John his eldest son. In a Latin confirmation of this disposition, April 11th, 1683, it is stated that Patrick McGregor had inherited Bracklie from his father, James Graham or McGregor, of whom no other mention is made. In 1685 there occurs an adjudication against John McGregor of Braiklie and John his eldest son. As the following year John obtains Sasine of the estate, on the previous disposition, it is to be inferred that Patrick died about this time.
In 1686, 28th August, Resignation of the lands of Bracklie by John MacGregor of Bracklie and Patrick Graham his father, to John Earl of Breadalbane.
In 1687, March 26, there is an obligation by John MacGregor Fiar of Braiklie - and in 1690 in an act for sequestrating "Rebels' Rents" “McGrigor of Braikley" is amongst the names, which shows he must have been on the Loyalist side in the previous wars.
In 1714, when Balhaldies was elected chief he bound himself" if the Government were pleased to allow him a pension to destinate a third part of it to the following Heads of families " …Glengyle, Gregor McGregor of Bracklie, head of the Family of Bracklie, and to Roro….." Gregor McGregor, head of the family of Bracklie, signs the Bond of Election to Balhaldies," and some persons overlooking the fact that Bracklie was given to a younger son some generations previously, infer from this signature that the older family- i.e. the House of Duncan Ladosach - agreed to the Election. Bracklie however was a junior branch, and had not in reality any prominent position in the Clan.