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Genealogy of The Clan Gregor - 33 - Descendants of Coll in Balquhidder

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Coll
b.~1698 died 1735
m. Dec 1721, Margaret MacGregor, Coileitir, Glen Falloch
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Gregor [1]
b.~1722
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93 - descendants of Gregor, son of Coll

Kate
b.26/4/1725
m. Duncan [8]
Is this Duncan McPharrie?
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96 - descendants of Kate & Duncan

John
b.19/12/1732
m. dtr. of John MacAlpin, Edinburgh [3]
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James Murray
b.~1760 d.1818
Major-General, HEICS, Bengal Cavalry
m. Catherine dtr of Thomas Wedderburn Dunbar of Caithness
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Robert Guthrie
b~17/10/1806 d.27/8/1867
m.Alexandrina Watson
Major, Bengal Artillery
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Edward
b.~27/10/35
ensign HEICS
died in Indian Mutiny
Sir Charles Metcalfe KCB
b.12/8/1840 d.5/2/1887 at Cairo
buried at Glengyle 11/3/1887
Major General, QMG India Army
m. Charlotte Mary Jardine
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Genevieve Maud
b.1872 d.8/9/1937
Norman
b.30/12/1842
d.11/4/1938
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Helen Joan
9 daughters
James
Thomas
Robert
b.~1772 d.11/9/1803
India

m.Sarah, dtr of Graham of Duchray
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Robert
b.8/2/1800
Anna [2]
b.23/5/1735

[1] GD50/184/84/5 paper has the following: Gregor a descendant of Coll the son of Rob Roy who lived about the braes of Balquhidder had a son Donald.
As Margaret, wife of Coll, came from Coiletir at the head of Glen Falloch in Killin parish, in the absence of birth immediately subsequent to the mariage, recorded in Balquhidder, it is reasonable to assume that either Coll and Margaret were living as a couple at Coiletir, or that Margaret may have gone to her mother's home to have her first child. Unfortunately there is a gap in the Killin parish record of births from November 1717 until October 1727. Later baptisms for Coll and Margaret are recorded in Balquhidder in 1725 and 1732.

[2] It has been pointed out that although the Scotlandspeople website for baptisms in Balquhidder records an unmaned son of Coll and Kate baptised on 23/5/1735, an image of the actual record 331/10/63 clearly has
"May 23 1735: Coll M'Grigor in Kirkton of Balquhidder and Margaret M'Grigor his wife had a child baptised called Anna"
OPR Baptism: MCGRIGOR, -----; COLL MCGRIGOR/ MART MCGRIGOR; M; 23/05/1735; 331/10 63; Balquhidder
Coll also died in 1735

[3] Richard Sturt has kindly advised me that John the son of Coll married a MacAlpin, as shown by Burke LG 2nd Edn. Supp,. This shows that the son John was a Captain in the 60th Rifles and that he married a daughter of John MacAlpine of Edinburgh. I can’t find any marriage entry for that but it should be easy enough to track John’s military career in 60th Rifles. Hodson has General James being born 1759/60, so perhaps John married his MacAlpine in about 1758 or so, therefore born around the 1732 that you have for him..

[7] Old Parish record of Balquhidder Births 331
Children of Coll & Kate
1. Coll Campbell had a daughter Katharine 26/4/1725 - 331/10/41
2. Coll McGrigor and Mart Murray had a son John 19/12/1732 - 331/ 10/57
3. Coll McGrigor and Mart. McGrigor had a son [blank in record ] 23/5/1735 - 331/10/63

[8] MacPharrie might have been the same Duncan Drummond or MacGregor in Strathyre who had been involved with Rob Roy's sons in the kidnapping in December 1750 of Jean Key as a wife for Robin Oig, for which Robin was hanged in 1754. James Mor excaped from prison into exile in France, where he died, while Duncan was acquitted. His involvement could be the reason for Walter Scott mistakenly claiming that Rob Roy had a son named Duncan. He was probably the same Duncan who was married to Kate, a daughter of Coll and granddaughter of Rob Roy some time after the '45.

[9] Probable family of Duncan McGregor (Drummond) and Kate (Kathrin) McGregor in Balquhidder
There is a gap in the parish record 1741-54 so their marriage is not recorded.
Janet 28/11/1748 GROS 331/10/101
Patrick 14/9/1750 GROS 331/10/109
Margaret 1/12/1753 GROS 331/10/120
Coll 1/3/1756 GROS 331/10/129