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Genealogy of The Clan Gregor - 29 - Patrick Roy in Glengyle
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Padraig ruadh / Patrick roy
b.~1548 executed 1613
Glengyle
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Donnchadh [1]
b.~1570 exec.1604
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Padraig [8]
b.~1590
alive 1649
Balquhidder

Eoin dubh lean ? [9]
b.~1591


Donnchadh [10]
b.~1592


Donald dubh [7]
b.~1593
Eoin dubh [2]
"nadinin"
b.~1571 d.1612 at Tomzarloch
 Padraig oig [3]
b.~1572
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Strathyre
Raibart [5]
b.~1591
murdered 1612 [16]

Griogair [12]
b.~1592
alive 1628
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Alasdair
b.~1625
alias Fergusone 1649 [18]
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-Strathyre McGregors in hearth tax roll 1691 [19]
Alasdair
b.~1655
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Patrick
(alias Drummond?)
b.~1690
m.Janet McLaren 24/6/1718
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Duncan McPharrie [20]
b.7/11/1725
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96 - descendants of Kate & Duncan
Donald
b.~1657		 Robert
b.~1660
Patrick
b.~1630
Domhnall [6]
b.~1593
alias Ferguson 1649

Griogair gear [4]
b.~1573 to
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Balquhidder
Domnall [11]
b.~1594 executed 1614
Domhnall Grymoche [14]
b.~1560
died 1612

[1] "Duncan macphatrick VcCoulchere,", #81-1590; #15-1592; #31-1601
2 march 1604 - Justiciary sentenced to hang

[2] "John his brother,( of Duncan macphatrick VcCoulchere,)", #82-1590; #15-1592; #32-1601 list
#36-1611a Johne Don(?) McPhatrik Nedadin(?) McCoulchaire McGregour servitour to the foirsaid Gregour McPhatrik VcCoulchaire [KILLED 1612]
#4-1613c - Johne Dow McGregour his brother Argyill cau(tioner) - listed here despite being killed ? in 1612
#45-1613d - John dow McPhadrik Nedayden McCoulcheir VcGregour - "fourth rank" despite being killed in 1612 1 march 1612 - killed at Tomzarloch by Earl of Perth's men, including Glenalmond MacGregors taking alias Drummond.

[3] "Patrick, (brother of Duncan macphatrick VcCoulchere,)", #83-1590;
#29-1611a Patrik Oig McGregour VcCoulchare his brother in Strathire
#59-1613b Patrik Oig Mccoulchaire brother to Gregor Ger
#3-1613c - Patrik McGregour sometyme in Innerlochay Argyill Cautioner
#40-1613d - Patrik oig McCoulchier McGregour in Strathyre - "fourth rank"

[4] "and Gregor his brothers,( of Duncan macphatrick VcCoulchere,)", #84-1590;
#28-1611a Gregour McPhatrikVcCoulchaire in Balfuidder
#57-1613b Gregour Ger McFatrik VcCoulcheir at Glenfrune
#1-1613c GregourMcFatrik VcCoullchaire without caution;
#12-1613d second rank

[5] #30-1611a Robart McCoulchare sonne to the said Patrik
#60-1613b ---- McGregour his sone (probably Robert son of Patrik Oig Mccoulchaire brother to Gregor Ger)
#29-1613d Robert McPhadrik Oig VcCoulkeir - "third rank"

[6] #31-1611a Donald McCoulchare McGregour his brother to the said Robart
1649 list #117 Donald Fergusone in Lagan both (with Alexander 116) in Strathyre

[7] #39-1611a Donald Dow McPhatrik VcCoulchaire his brother (brother of Patrik McConeichy VcFatrik VcCoulchaire in Innerlochlay )
#43=1613d Donald dow McCoulcheir McGregour

[8] #40-1611a Patrik McConeichy VcFatrik VcCoulchaire in Innerlochlay
#9-1613c - possibly Patrik Cam McCoulchaire no cautioner
#14-1613d Patrick McCondochie VcCoulcheir McGregour in Innerlochey - "second rank"
#80-1649 80 Patrick McConnochie vig McGregor in Balquhidder, 81 Patrick McConnochie VcPatrik there. Amelia Vol ii p 118

[9] #41-1611a Johne Don (?) McGregour his brother in Balfuidder (brother of Patrik McConeichy VcFatrik VcCoulchaire in Innerlochlay)
#57-1613d John Dow McCondochie VcPhadrik McCoulcheir

[10] #42-1611a Duncane Mcgregour his brother in Balfuidder also all there personis under my Lord of Tullybarne
#58-1613d Duncane McCondochie VcPhadrik his brother

[11] #58-1613b ---- McGregour his sone (probaly Donald - son of #57-1613b Gregour Ger McFatrik VcCoulcheir at Glenfrune)

[12] #30-1613d Grigor McPhadrik Oig VcCoulkeir - "third rank"
"June 11. 1628. Robert Buchanan of Lany as cautioner fined for not producing Allaster McGregor fadrik and Patrik McGregor fadrik his brother, sons to Gregor Mcfatrik in Strathyre to underly the law for theft from Sir George Muachet of Burnbank. Knight." -Record of Justiciary.

[14] #32-1611a Donald Grvymoche McGregour McCoulchaire brother to the said Gregour McPhatrick and to the said Patrik McCoulchare [SLAIN 1612]
1 march 1612 - killed at Tomzarloch by Earl of Perth's men, including Glenalmond MacGregors taking alias Drummond.
Despite being killed in 1612, listed #44-1613d in 4th rank Donald Gromoche McGregour VcCoulcheir

[15] 24. In Vol. I., page 339, it is mentioned that Robert McColl, in 1604, with his sons John, Malcolm, and Patrick, had changed his name to Buchannan; he was a son of Allaster McRobert Moir in Strathyre; also at page 348 Duncan McRobert changcd his surname to that of Dougall; VcCole is evidently VcCoull; thus Donald and his "four brethren" appear to have been of this Strathyre family.

[16] Duncan, Patrick, and Alexander, having taken the name of Livingstoune, obtained a remission. Duncan and Allastair, both living in Callander, July 1612, were charged with the slaughter of Robert Mcphatrik Oig in Strathyre. July 24th, same year,

[17] 1649 24. In Vol. I., page 339, it is mentioned that Robert McColl, in 1604, with his sons John, Malcolm, and Patrick, had changed his name to Buchannan; he was a son of Allaster McRobert Moir in Strathyre; also at page 348 Duncan McRobert changcd his surname to that of Dougall; VcCole is evidently VcCoull; thus Donald and his "four brethren" appear to have been of this Strathyre family.

[18] 1649 list
116 Alexander Fergusone in Innervuckling,
117 Donald Fergusone in Lagan both in Strathyre,

[19] E69/19/1/88 - Hearth Tax Balquhidder 1691
Strathyre is the east end of Balquhidder from Loch Lubnaig to the foot of Glen Ogle.
Balwhidder parochen Strathyre : Robert mcgregor and Finlay fergusone -- 2 -- £1.8.0
Donald miller and Donald mcgregor wt [with] a myln -- 3 -- £2.2.0
Alexander fergusone and robert mcgregor -- 2 -- £1.8.0
Alexander mcgregor and Donald fergusone -- 2 -- £1.8.0
Alexander mcgregor and John fergusone -- 3 -- £2.2.0
This is a big assumption, but it is likely that several of these NacGregors descend from the Strathyre line of Patrick roy. Therefore I have shown Robert, Donald and Alexander McGregor as possible sons of Alasdair in 1649. Note also that Alasdair in the 1649 list was himself using the alias Ferguson. It may not ever be possible to determine which was which, but I suspect that one of these was likely to be the grandfather of Duncan McPharrie, who was born in 1725.
Note there are no Drummonds in the Hearth tax roll. However, the Earl of Perth was a Drummond and the MacGregors, whose name had been made legal again in 1661 were to be proscribed again shortly after the time of the hearth tax as a result of their involvement in the 1689 Jacobite rising. Again it's a big assumption, but one or more of the Strathyre MacGregors may then have adopted the alias Drummond with the favour of their landlord.

[20] MacPharrie might have been the same Duncan Drummond or MacGregor in Strathyre who had been involved with Rob Roy's sons in the kidnapping in December 1750 of Jean Key as a wife for Robin Oig, for which Robin was hanged in 1754. James Mor excaped from prison into exile in France, where he died, while Duncan was acquitted. His involvement could be the reason for Walter Scott mistakenly claiming that Rob Roy had a son named Duncan. He was probably the same Duncan who was married to Kate, a daughter of Coll and granddaughter of Rob Roy some time after the '45.

OPR Marriage: DRUMOND, PATRICK; JANET MCLAREN/FR28 (FR28); 24/06/1718; 331/10 21 Balquhidder
OPR Baptism: DRUMOND, MALCOM; PATRICK DRUMOND./ M; 19/09/1719; 331/10 26 Balquhidder
OPR Baptism: DRUMMOND, JANET; PATRICK DRUMMOND/ F; 30/06/1721; 331/10 31 Balquhidder
OPR Baptism: DRUMMOND, -----; PATRICK DRUMMOND/ U; 19/11/1724; 331/10 40 Balquhidder
OPR Baptism: DRUMMOND, DUNCAN; PATRICK DRUMMOND/ M; 07/11/1725; 331/10 42 Balquhidder

1. Duncan Mcpatrick VcCoulchere mentioned in proscription roll Feb. 1589-90. James Commendator of Inchaffray was called upon August 1590 to be surety for him amongst others. On Nov. 15, 1592, Sir John Murray of Tullibardine got the escheit of Duncan Mcpadrik Maccoulcheir MacGregor in Innernantie for not removing from the said land. Duncan was one of the pledges proposed in 1601, and was one of Glenstray's pledges to the Council, January 1604. He was cxecuted for intercommoning with the Laird of McGregor March 2, 1604.
2. John dhu Lean Mcpatrick VcCoullchere, he was on the roll of 1589-90 and was complained of by name to the Council with some others by Colquhoun of Luss, Nov. 22, 1602. In 1611 he was pursued by a military party under the Government and a private soldier sustained wounds in the pursuit. In March 1612 in a skirmish at Tomzarloch amongst the killed is John Patrick Nadidin MacGregor VcCulchere, probably the same.
3. Patrick Mcphadrick VcCoulchere in roll Feb. 1590.
4 Gregor ger Mcphadrick VcCoulchere denounced in same roll. James Drummond, Commendator of Inchaffray, the following August became surety for him. In 1613 a letter from the King mentions Gregor is to be delivered with Robert Abrach to the charge of the Earl of Perth and the Master of Madderty. The two sureties were summoned to exhibit their charges Feb. 1614, but it was stated that "Gregor Gair was in Ireland. He appears to have had a son “Dowle Oig McGregor Ger" apprehended by "Scogy McIntyre” who in March 1614 received a reward for the service, and Dowle Oig was thirefter execute to the deid."